

Check some of the photo topos I've sent in the past two weeks or so. altho' we seem to be focusing in on one or two ideas. We still haven't made a formal standard for topos. The learning curve is steep but the final results are professional.

I'm using Adobe Illustrator to draw my lines and designing the book in Adobe InDesign. If you guys can make a final decision on this, I can mirror the format in the winter guide and provide and an area with clear consistency. I think this bit is going to be hard work! - Tim Hoddy ( talk) 12:56, (BST)
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This will make it easier for editors to create their own topos and update those created by others. We need to develop some formal standards for topos. However, if we are using different programmes we would be a little restricted. It's easy to chnge these around using inkscape if routes get re-numbered or re-graded. A similar scheme would be applicable for trad but requiring another lower grade colour (green I guess) for the severe grades. I'm using dashed lines for the route line colour co-ordinating it 7b black/blue. I am knocking a few topos out for sports crags. Yeah biggest issues as I see it is A) Space B) Consistency. Sounds like a pretty good idea and I like the page. That said i'd preffer unobtrusive as I hate bloat. There are already various pages I use lots when writing new pages i.e. I like the idea of getting to a developers' guide easily. Any thoughts? Alan, Tom, Chris, Steve, etc? - Tim Hoddy 09:57, 31 July 2010 (BST) Could even make it readable only by signed up users. That would take us to the developers' guide, thumbnails, photos wanted, list of suitable software, etc. We could have a small link from the bottom of the main page entitled, Development. I've been thinking of a way of making the thumbnails page accessible but yet unobtrusive. Tim Hoddy ( talk) 10:42, 1 July 2013 (BST) Thumbnails page accessible? But of course you are welcome to create topos yourself if you wish. I use this 'proto-topo' together with the original to create a "bells-'n-whistles" topo. We tend to do it in the following way: Someone gets a good crag shot and copies it to me together with a roughly drawn topo using the same shot. Tim Hoddy ( talk) 12:58, (BST) Are we all uploading them here now? - Del ( talk) 07:53, 1 July 2013 (BST) No, we're not. Tom Dudley seems to have disappeared and we are no longer doing things that way. The site might be unreliable in the long term? - Del 10:46, 22 December 2010 (GMT) The above is pretty much 'out-of-date'. Just to add the link above no onger displays a file. We have a quota of 500MB but we are on 744MB at the moment! I would fear an imminent email but the blokes running running the server seem so laid back! If an image is, say, over 10MB, then a small thumbnail and link to the mediafire d/load would do the trick. Hows the server paid for by the way? Is it out of your own pockets or more through SWMC? - Tom Dudley 02:33, 31 July 2010 (BST) Space isn't an issue for me on my desktop but I don't want to be uploading files of that size if server space is limited. The shot I took of Giants Cave for example was about 20 photos stitched together (from a 10MP camera), which ended up being a 180MB file.

Space problem? We need to up our quota on the server! - Tim Hoddy 00:30, 31 July 2010 (BST) Yeah I agree (and to be honest I'd probably fall behind with keeping that mediafire page updated), I'm just thinking of terms of saving space. When finished they can be linked from the appropriate crag page. In this way, folks are more likely to see them and more likley to get working. Tom, it would be better if you were to upload the originals to the wiki and then make a page entitled, "Thumbnails Awaiting" - containing (you'd never guess) thumbnails of either 'works in progress' or 'completed topos'. Here it is: - Tom Dudley 17:04, 30 July 2010 (BST) I've decided to put up the high res versions of the photos I took and also the editable files of the topos I've done (either Inkscape or Paint.Net) so people can edit them if they want.
